Xbox 360 vs PS3

[KillEmotions 115]

[b]ACE[/b], Ндя, nvidia тоже на своих картах мегадемки крутит.... пока даже близко ничего с демками от 7х geforce я не видел...

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Кстати, про UK
[url=http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=15447]http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=15447[/url]

[CrazzyMan 1]

ой, чё то я вас не понял, может порадуете позитивными новостями по поводу бокса? мега продажи в японии, или новые большие супер экслюзивы? а может просто открыли новые скртытые возможности Power pc? :-D

[Lain 9]

[b]CrazzyMan[/b], бокс перекрасили в чёрный цвет, и добавили 100гигов….
Офигеная новость же…. :razz:

[CrazzyMan 1]

[b]Lain[/b], аха, то-то я смотрю, его продажи упали в америке:
[url=http://www.eproductwars.com/vg/]http://www.eproductwars.com/vg/[/url]
[img]http://www.eproductwars.com/vg/graphs/systemsalesrank-1-1-1-recent30.jpg[/img]
обычный premium уже никому не нужен. :)


вот у меня перед сном как раз вопрос:
[b]Назавите, на ваше усмотрение, игры для бокса за эти 1,5 года с момента его выхода, которые используют бокс на все 70-80% ?[/b]

[just for fun 1]

[quote name="CrazzyMan"]ой, чё то я вас не понял, может порадуете позитивными новостями по поводу бокса? мега продажи в японии, или новые большие супер экслюзивы? а может просто открыли новые скртытые возможности Power pc? :-D[/quote]
Тебе мало ДМЦ4 и АС6? :) А вообще, пока вы новости коллекционируете, мы в игры играем :) "Хиты скоро будут" © сонибои :)

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[quote name="CrazzyMan"][b]Назавите, на ваше усмотрение, игры для бокса за эти 1,5 года с момента его выхода, которые используют бокс на все 70-80% ?[/b][/quote]
Нет еще таких игр :)

[GenyA 0]

Да, Крейзи, ты прав:
1. ДМЦ4
2. Эйс Комбат 6
3. Анонс вторых Гирзов.
4. Мультиплатформа ,[b]выходящая одновременно[/b], выглядит лучше на боксе.
4. Анонс снижения цен.
5. Отличный набор игр как вышедших, так и одидаемых.
5. Продажи через год с гаком будь здоров какие стабильные и в какаху рвут ПС3... что и не удивительно, блю-рей плееры ещё пока не очень популярны, а то, что на ней теоритечески можно играть в игры, отнюдь не все знают.

Да и Сони, вроде, начинает шевелиться... может и игр хороших дадут.

Всё пучком! :)


На вопрос про проценты загрузки не отвечу. Точной аналитики нет... а предсказание, гадание на кофейных гущах и прочие изыски далёкие от фактов и игр - это к сонибоям и прочим личностям обладающим экстраординарными ментальными талантами :)

[Gera 0]

интересное интервью с Исоманьяками интеренсые мне как неспециалисту детали о ГеоВ и Ресистанс полезности БР итд итп :D
[url=http://n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-32115.aspx]http://n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-32115.aspx[/url]
Insomniac Games Chief Creative Officer Brian Hastings discusses why the PS3 is the console to beat.

"First of all, let me make it clear that Insomniac is a 100 0ndependent development studio. Sony has neither endorsed nor authorized what I’m writing here.

When I started this blog post I was planning to write about Home and Little Big Planet from a developer’s perspective. But as I read some of the media and message board responses to Sony’s GDC presentation, I wanted to address an ongoing industry phenomenon. Specifically, the sheer volume of negative spin toward Sony from both the mainstream press and the internet community. Mere minutes after Sony announced a beautiful, ground breaking, free, community-enhancing online PS3 service, 100 internet posters were trying to argue that this was somehow a bad thing. [b]Whether you love or hate Sony, if you’re trying to spin Home as a bad thing I can only conclude that you’re part of Microsoft’s $3.2 billion viral marketing campaign. [/b] :laugh:

For the last nine months it has been fashionable to bash the PS3. At first it was controversial, even titillating, to make sensational and dire predictions about the PS3’s future. You could watch it happen again and again – a rumor starts on a message board (“The PS3s all caught on fire at TGS!”, “Blu-Ray won’t have any Porn!”), then it gets picked up by a games industry website, and a few days later USA Today runs the story with the headline “Experts Say PS3 Doom3d!1!!” But the tide has changed so much now that it’s downright controversial to suggest that the PS3 may yet be a success. So, in the spirit of sensationalism and controversy, let me present to you 10

1. Home & Little Big Planet
One of my jobs at Insomniac is to try to come up with “the next big thing.” This is something everyone at Insomniac does, but as Chief Creative Officer it’s also part of my job description. For the last two years there have been two concepts that I have felt had the strongest potential to be the next big thing. At GDC, Sony came out of the blue and delivered fully-realized versions of both concepts.

The first concept is a realization of the ‘Metaverse’ from Neal Stephenson’s groundbreaking novel Snow Crash. For those who haven’t read it, it’s what inspired Second Life. Over the last couple years, many of us at Insomniac have come up with lots of different ideas on how to make such a system for consoles. So when Home came out, already nearly complete and looking beautiful, it was both amazing and humbling at the same time. In short, Home is exactly what the online console community needs. I’m not saying that because it’s on the PS3. I’m saying that because Home is a fully realized version of something I’ve been trying to figure out how to do for two years.

The other “next big thing” I had been thinking about is how to make a game that is primarily driven by player-generated content. So when Little Big Planet was announced I felt like Orville Wright tinkering on a bicycle-powered balsa wood plane as a learjet suddenly flew overhead. Not only does Little Big Planet have stunningly beautiful graphics, gorgeous animation, brilliant physics and intuitive controls, it’s also a cooperative four player online game! This alone makes it accessible to a much greater audience than player vs player games. And most important of all, it has an absolutely ingenuous system for creating and sharing your own levels. This is HUGE. This is something that’s never been done on consoles and now it’s being introduced not as a half-baked add-on to another game, but as an absolutely brilliant, fully realized, breathtaking experience. You can bet that dozens of developers will create their own Little Big Planet levels as soon as it comes out. Many future game designers will get their start by designing Little Big Planet levels. Gamers who previously had no way to get their foot in the door as a game designer will have developers calling them in the middle of the night if they make a top-rated LBP level. [b]I say again, Little Big Planet is HUGE. [/b]
It’s humbling to know that other developers had not only thought of these two concepts, but brought them to fruition in such stunning fashion. Mostly, though, it’s very encouraging to see Sony taking more of a lead in online innovation. While some people were accusing them of merely copying the competition, Sony has been quietly working on two of the most innovative ideas of this generation. “Mii too?” Give me a break.

2. Free Online
Among all the talk about the price of Sony’s console, I almost never see anyone mention the significance of Sony’s free online service. Xbox Live Gold costs $70 to sign up for 1 year, or $20 for three months. You can renew your membership for $50 a year. So if the Xbox 360 stays around for five years, you’ll be paying 70 + 50 + 50 + 50 + 50 = $270 to access features that Sony gives you for free.

I agree, [b]Xbox Live is overall offering a better online service right now. But $270 better?[/b] And Sony is steadily narrowing the gap in online features. With improvements to the messaging system and support for background downloading, Sony is rapidly catching up with many of the key advantages that Live has enjoyed. Add to that the fact that Sony is offering virtually lag-free dedicated servers at no cost, while on Xbox Live you are paying for a more laggy peer-to-peer service. Furthermore, one of the biggest advertised features of Xbox Live is matchmaking, yet the implementation of this feature has been inconsistent since it is left up to the developer. The matchmaking service on Resistance: FOM, meanwhile, has been one of its biggest successes, proving that even at this early stage the PS3’s online capabilities are very competitive. And free. As the PS3 community continues to grow with new features and player-generated content from Home and Little Big Planet, Sony’s online service is looking better and better. And, again, they’re not charging you $270 for it.

3. 50 GB games
If you ever hear someone say “Blu-Ray isn’t needed for this generation,” rest assured they don’t make games for a living. At Insomniac, we were filling up DVDs on the PS2, as were most of the developers in the industry. We compressed the level data, we compressed the mpeg movies, we compressed the audio, and it was still a struggle to get it to fit in 6 gigs. Now we’ve got 16 times as much system RAM, so the level data is 16 times bigger. And the average disc space of games only gets bigger over a console’s lifespan. As games get bigger, more advanced and more complex, they necessarily take up more space. If developers were filling up DVDs last generation, there are clearly going to be some sacrifices made to fit current generation games in the same amount of space.

[b]Granted, some really great Xbox 360 games have squeezed onto a DVD9. Gears of War is a beautiful game and shows off the highest resolution textures of anything yet released, partly because of the Unreal Engine’s ability to stream textures. This means that you can have much higher resolution textures than you could normally fit in your 512 MB of RAM[/b]. It also means that you’re going to chew up more disc space for each level. With streamed textures, streamed geometry and streamed audio, even with compression, you can quickly approach 1 GB of data per level. That inherently limits you to a maximum of about 7 levels, and that’s without multiplayer levels or mpeg cutscenes.

[b]Sometimes people ask us, “If Resistance takes 14 gigabytes, why doesn’t it look better than Gears?” Well, for one, Resistance didn’t support texture streaming, so we had to make choices about where we spent our high-res textures. Resistance also had 30 single-player chapters, six multiplayer maps, uncompressed audio streaming, and high-definition mpegs[/b]. That all added up to a lot of space on the disc. Starting with Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction we are supporting texture streaming, which will make the worlds look even better, and will also consume even more space on disc.

There’s no question that you can always cut more levels, compress the audio more, compress the textures more, down-res the mpeg movies, and eventually get any game to fit on a DVD. But you paid for a high-def experience, right? You want the highest resolution, best audio, most cinematic experience a developer can offer, right? That’s why Blu-Ray is important for games, and why it will become more important each year of this hardware cycle.

4. Casino Royale
Casino Royale is the first high definition title to crack the top 10 on Amazon’s DVD charts, rising up to number seven shortly after being released. This is significant because it dispels the myth that high definition discs are merely a niche and will never take off with the mainstream.

A lot of people have been waiting on the fence to see whether Blu-Ray or HD-DVD would emerge as the winner of the format war. Well, at this point the war is as good as over. Blu-Ray has won a TKO. It always had superior technical specs and much wider studio support, but there was the question of whether HD-DVD’s earlier release and initially lower price would capture enough of the market to make it the winner. But Blu-Ray has already surpassed HD-DVD in overall discs sold, and is currently outselling HD-DVD discs at about a 3:1 rate. Many neutral observers in the A/V community have called the war in favor of Blu-Ray. If you want minute-to-minute updates, you can follow what’s left of the format war at various locations on the internet:
[url=http://www.eproductwars.com..]http://www.eproductwars.com..[/url].
[url=http://www.hdgamedb.com/ama..]http://www.hdgamedb.com/ama..[/url].
These sites mainly compare Amazon sales data, but the Nielsen sales data shows the same thing: Blu-Ray discs are outselling HD-DVD by a steadily increasing margin.

Many of Disney, Fox and Sony’s biggest box office movies will release exclusively on Blu-Ray in the next three months, likely pushing the sales separation between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD to a margin where many retailers will begin phasing out HD-DVD. Retailers hate a format war even more than consumers, and I suspect they’ll take the initiative to end it as quickly as possible.

5. HDMI
A lot has been said about Sony’s choice to ship with composite cables. I won’t say I agree with that decision, but I think too little has been said of the fact that even the cheaper PS3 SKU supports HDMI 1.3. The PS3 was the first consumer device to support it, and this is a very important future-proofing step. When you go to buy higher-end TVs, the PS3 will support the highest possible audio and video input the TV and receiver can accept. If and when high-def movies start requiring an Image Constraint Token, the PS3 will still be able play them in high definition.

Right now, HDMI seems primarily to be a selling point to the hardcore audio and videophiles of the world. But HDTVs are getting cheaper and more popular all the time, and consumer sophistication and knowledge of high definition audio and video is growing. In a couple years, HDMI devices will be the standard. Graphics and audio in games will also continue to improve, and more and more consumers will want HDMI in order to get the best results on their home theater setups. As this happens, Microsoft has a difficult choice – do they stick with “last gen” video output, or do they release a premium version of the Xbox 360 that includes HDMI but effectively forces early adopters to re-buy the system to get the best results? Sony ultimately made their console more expensive by including HDMI, but over the next couple years it’s likely to play out as the right choice.

6. Standard HDD
When we were developing for PS2, I was jealous of Xbox’s standard hard drive. There are so many things this allowed you to consider as a developer – virtually unlimited save data, improved load times, custom music, downloadable content and user-created content just to name a few. But since hard drives, no matter what the size, never get cheaper than about $50, Microsoft lost money trying to compete with the PS2’s price. That may be the reason they left it out of the cheaper Xbox 360 SKU, thinking that Sony would again leave out the hard drive on the PS3. Instead, Sony made the hard drive standard for both SKUs. This added to the cost of the PS3, but it also let developers use the HDD in games.

[b]The problem with including a hard drive in one version of the 360 and not in the other is that developers can’t use it for the games. Or, at least, they can’t use it for any required features. When you are guaranteed to have at least a 20 GB hard drive in the console, you can write your load caching routines around it, or use it for your application’s storage needs. To a developer, an optional hard drive is roughly equivalent to no hard drive at all[/b].

Another advantage of the PS3 is that it will let you put in any third party hard drive you want. From a developer’s standpoint, this is good news because the market will gradually be able to support larger downloadable games over the course of the PS3’s life. As downloadable content gets larger and more sophisticated, PS3 owners can choose to buy larger hard drives at the best market price. The more this happens, the more developers will be encouraged to create better and better downloadable games.

7. The Wii Fad Will Fade
OK, this one’s going to be controversial, but I have to say it. I like Nintendo a lot. I think Nintendo has innovated far more than any other company in the industry. And I think the Wii is really, really fun. But… let me relate to you a story that may sound familiar:

Your friend Reggie invites you over for a Wii Party. It’s awesome. You and your friends partake in whatever beverages are legally appropriate for your age group. The next day everyone who went to the party rushes out and buys a Wii.

A week later Reggie hosts another Wii Party. This time only half the group comes. It’s still fun, but there isn’t quite as much shoving to get at the Wiimote.

The next week Reggie hosts another Wii Party. You tell him you have bird flu.

Obviously I’m exaggerating, but the Wii does have many characteristics of popular mainstream fads. It’s instantaneously accessible, it’s unlike anything you’ve tried before, and it’s great fun to share with friends. In short, it’s everything Nintendo said it would be and it has captured the world’s imagination. The only downside is that the world is easily distracted. Tickle Me Elmo captured the world’s attention at one point, as did Furbies. They were both instantly accessible, were unlike anything people had seen before, and were fun to share with friends. But a year later, after everyone had seen them and tried them out, their popularity waned.

The Wii is currently riding on a massive wave of mainstream attention and has been purchased by lots of people who don’t normally play games. But how many of those people who are hooked on Wii Sports will also buy Wii Need For Speed? Mainstream fads usually run their course within a year. As the honeymoon period fades, the Wii will be going up against more and more graphically impressive games on the PS3 and Xbox 360. More people will be buying HD televisions and looking for the most immersive and stunning experiences available. For these reasons, I think the Wii will be more successful than the GameCube or N64 but in the long run will still be outsold by the PS3.

8. [b]PS3 Has a Major CPU Advantage [/b]
[b]The GPUs on the Xbox 360 and PS3 are roughly equivalent, with the Xbox 360 arguably having a slight edge. The difference in CPU power, however, is far greater with the PS3 enjoying the advantage. The PS3’s eight parallel CPUs (one primary “PPU” and seven Cell processors) give it potentially far more computing power than the three parallel CPUs in the Xbox 360. Just about any tech programmer will tell you that the PS3’s CPUs are significantly more powerful. The problem is that it has been challenging thus far to take advantage of the Cell’s parallel architecture[/b].

With the PS2, Sony got away with making a fairly developer-unfriendly system, and its success allowed their hardware designers to ignore developer’s complaints as they made the PS3. People high up at Sony have realized that approach simply won’t work anymore and are trying to fix the problem. Sony is actively improving their libraries, tools and developer support in order to make PS3 development easier. They are giving first party developed techniques and code to third-party developers so that multi-platform games should start looking better on PS3.

Games developed from the ground up on PS3 are the ones that will really show off the PS3’s CPU advantage. The complexity of the distributed processing architecture means that PS3 engines won’t fully blossom until a little later in the lifecycle than the PS2. This has put the PS3 at a disadvantage early in its lifecycle, but within two years you will see games that surpass what is possible on the Xbox 360.

9. PS2 still outselling 360
I know, it’s outselling the PS3 by an even larger margin. But the continued strong PS2 sales really are a good thing for Sony. Anyone buying a PS2 at this point is probably not going to buy a PS3 or Xbox 360 in the next year. And when they do choose to buy the current generation of hardware, the PS3 will be in a lot better position. The price will have come down, the game library will be broad, and the top PS3 titles will probably have the edge in both graphics and sound. Just as important, the people buying into the PS2 now will be getting into many of Sony’s exclusive franchises that they will then later want to play on the PS3.

10. Something For Everyone
One of Sony’s biggest advantages is that it has strong franchises in every genre. Whereas Microsoft’s successful titles are mostly M-rated, and Nintendo’s are mostly E-rated, Sony has a big list of hit titles across the spectrum. When a 30-something gamer (like me) goes to buy a game console, it’s a lot easier to justify the purchase when there are games he can play with his kids as well as more mature stuff.

To Microsoft’s credit, they are doing a good job of catching up. The acquisition of Rare and the development of Viva Pinata have helped to broaden their spectrum. But it takes time to build a franchise, and Sony has been building their suite of titles for over a decade. Consider the breadth, success and critical acclaim of some of their exclusive properties: The Getaway, God of War, Gran Turismo, Hot Shots Golf, Jak and Daxter, Killzone, Ratchet & Clank, Shadow of the Colossus, Singstar, Sly Cooper, SOCOM, and Twisted Metal. These are all million-plus sellers worldwide that are either already announced or likely to appear on PS3. Add to this Sony’s new line up of first-party titles, including Heavenly Sword, Lair, Motorstorm, Resistance: Fall of Man, Uncharted and White Knight Story, and they have an even deeper and stronger line-up than what they had on PS2.

A lot of industry watchers and even a handful of publishers have been quick to write Sony off this generation, and I think that’s near-sighted. Sony has made a lot of decisions with the PS3 that may have slowed them down in the short run, but should give them a big advantage in the long run. The high price, hardware complexity, and the uncertainty of the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD format war have contributed to the PS3’s slow start out of the gate. But as the price drops, developers master the hardware, and Blu-Ray becomes the new DVD standard, Sony’s early disadvantages turn to advantages. As downloadable games become more common, the 60 GB hard-drive will be a big advantage to developers and consumers. As games get bigger and more sophisticated, Blu-Ray storage will increasingly become a major advantage. And as more and more of Sony’s exclusive first-party titles get released, the PS3 will begin to outsell the competition on a monthly basis. Those publishers who have shifted resources away from PS3 development will find themselves behind the curve and losing money as the market center gradually shifts toward the PS3 over the next two years.

I’m sure many of you may have comments about my point of view. If you do, please email blog@insomniacgames.com and I’ll do my best to respond. Also, I’ll be visiting the various forums to see what people think, including our own at [url=http://www.insomniacgames.com]www.insomniacgames.com[/url] (click on the community tab). Hope to see you there. "
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[Emerald Weapon 6 633]

инсомниаки молодцы, все правильно говорят. Особенно про покупку PS 2 было интересно.

[aladdin 2]

[quote name="just for fun"]А вообще, пока вы новости коллекционируете, мы в игры играем :) [/quote]

и мы играем в игры... :maniac:

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[quote name="Lain"]бокс перекрасили в чёрный цвет, и добавили 100гигов….
[/quote]

лучше б проц обновили... а то полноценные 1080р не тянет... тока апскейленные.

[CrazzyMan 1]

[quote]Тебе мало ДМЦ4 и АС6? [/quote]что DMC4 ? не ради него xbox360 покупать.
AC6 - где официальный анонс, что только на боксе? :lol:


[quote]Нет еще таких игр [/quote]
за 1,5 года нет тещё такихх игр? :shock:
[b]на боксе трудно програмировать? у бокса несхожая с пк архитектура?[/b]

так если за столько времени не научились выжимать из бокса соки, нафиг такая консоль нужна? именно, нафик не нужна. :dn:



[quote name="GenyA"]Да, Крейзи, ты прав:
1. ДМЦ4
2. Эйс Комбат 6
3. Анонс вторых Гирзов.
4. Мультиплатформа ,[b]выходящая одновременно[/b], выглядит лучше на боксе.
4. Анонс снижения цен.
5. Отличный набор игр как вышедших, так и одидаемых.
5. Продажи через год с гаком будь здоров какие стабильные и в какаху рвут ПС3... что и не удивительно, блю-рей плееры ещё пока не очень популярны, а то, что на ней теоритечески можно играть в игры, отнюдь не все знают.

Да и Сони, вроде, начинает шевелиться... может и игр хороших дадут.

Всё пучком! :)


На вопрос про проценты загрузки не отвечу. Точной аналитики нет... а предсказание, гадание на кофейных гущах и прочие изыски далёкие от фактов и игр - это к сонибоям и прочим личностям обладающим экстраординарными ментальными талантами :)[/quote]

1) не ради мультиплатформы покупается бокс.
2) не ради мультиплатформы покупается бокс.
3) анонса как такого не было, не ради мультиплатформы покупается бокс (выйдет на pc).
4) не ради мультиплатформы покупается бокс(и скоро мульти будет на ps3 лучше).
4) premium уже никому не нужен.
5) МАЛО. Сингла хватит максимум на 2 мес.
6) продажи на 10% выше, чем были у бокса в америке, а в японии ещё ниже чем были.

Я ж просил: [b]на ваше усмотрение[/b].
да, вопрос с подвохом, но просто таких игр на боксе нет, а прошло почти 1,5 года! Выпускают что-то на уровне пк, и это называете некстгеном?

[KillEmotions 115]

то, что что-то там не выпускается на какие-то проценты мощности - это вопрос к разработчикам, почему они не хотят шлифовать игры.
а что касается мультиплатформу - не пс3 же ради нее покупать? а компы - фтопку.

[ACE 42 758]

[b]CrazzyMan[/b], на пс2 была мультиплатформа в лучшем качестве, поэтому ее люди и брали, нафик дримкаст, когда на пс2 все красивее выглядит? + свои эесклюзивы, дримка никому не нужен был, вот его и не покупали, и хочу тебя просветить, дримка провалилися еще и из-за того, что на нем не было некст гена от ЕА геймс, а на 360 он есть и на полтора года раньше и больше и КРАСИВИЕЕ :gigi: Потом, на пс3 щас 28 игр, на 360 - более 200 игр, на первой парочка эксклюзивов вроде реситсанса и моторшторма, плюс отсосные генжи2 и антолд легендс, а на 360 эксов и больше и лучшее :razz:
какую консольку купить, хм :? 360 :gigi:

то что мало/много - это пофик, никого не волновало, что зое2, ико и колос проходится за 5 часов :razz:

продажами у бокса все супер, на старте 5 месяцев был дефицит, у пс3 дефицит был 2 месяца, а они идут по продажам одинакова :razz: а софт продается на 360 НАМНОГО лучше :razz:

насчет последнего - назови мне хоть одну трунекст генную игру на пс3, которая лучше графики на 360? нету таких, более того - там вообще нет некст гена, кроме Обливиона и моторшторма с его грязью :gigi:
а про пк ты бы молчал, давно видать не играл на пк
посмотри список релизов пк игр и найди мне хоть что-то похожее на игры 360 или некст ген :lol: :dn:
[url=http://www.ag.ru/reviews]http://www.ag.ru/reviews[/url]
их всех игр супер хит только один - порт Джейд Эмпайр, которая на боксе1 вышла два года назад :-D
о, да, не покупай 360, играй на пк :lol:

[biblbrux 587]

[quote name="aladdin"]
а то полноценные 1080р не тянет... тока апскейленные.[/quote]
Не надо бреда, ладно? Нативное 1080р на х360 во всех хд-двд фильмах есть, и в трех _уже вышедших_ играх - VT3, NBA Street, SC:DA. Нормальное честное нативное 1080р.

В играх, которые 1080р не поддерживают, при выставленном 1080р идет апскейл. Об этом тыщураз писали, но видно не все это читали...

[CrazzyMan 1]

[b]ACE[/b],
1) следующие 5 лет, мульти будет лучше выглядеть на ps3 - твоя реакция?
вот кстати:
[url=http://www.eurogamer.net/http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/7/4/5/2/8/ss_preview_Virtua_Tennis_2_1080p.jpg]http://www.eurogamer.net/http://images. ... _1080p.jpg[/url]
[url=http://www.eurogamer.net/http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/7/4/5/2/8/ss_preview_Virtua_Tennis_3_1080p.jpg]http://www.eurogamer.net/http://images. ... _1080p.jpg[/url]

2) если купил сёдня бокс:
поиграл/прошёл PDZ.
заценил/прошёл Kameo.
поганял PGR3.
заценил DoA4.
прошёл G.R.A.W.
прошёл Dead Rising.
далее viva pinata, вдруг понравиться.
на 1-2 вечера заценил gears of war, если зацепит.
на последок Lost planet и crackdown.

в эти игры на ближайшие пол года больше нигде кроме бокса не поиграть.
ради этих игр и покупается бокс сегодня.

10 игр за 1,5 года, против resistance, motorstorm, f1, vf5 всего лишь за 4 месяца? :shock:

3) софт продаётся почти одинаково, сравни январь 2006 и 2007, это в америке. В японии, бокс ваще курит в сторонке.

4) к марту 2008 я тебе назаву. Я спрашиваю, где на боксе некстген игры за его 1,5 года существование???

5) R6 ? CoH ? TESIV ?
на - [url=http://pc.ign.com/articles/775/775596p1.html]http://pc.ign.com/articles/775/775596p1.html[/url] просвещайся.

[color=green][size=75]Добавлено спустя 5 минут 22 секунды:[/size][/color]

[b]KillEmotions[/b], ога:

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FFXIII
FFXIII: versus
Tekken6
Kingdom hearts 3

KillZone2
Heavenly Sword
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Lair
Uncharted
Ratchet
LittleBigPlanet
MotorStorm
White Knight Story
God of War 3
Gran Turismo 5
Team Ico Project
The Getaway 3
Resistance
CryTek Project
Bioware Project
Eye of Judgment
L.A. Noire
Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier
Afrika
Monster Kingdom
Monster Hunter 3
Z.o.E. 3
Ni-Oh
WipEout
Gradius
WarHawk
Formula one
Socom ps3
thatgamecompany Two Unknown Titles
Resistance2
MotorStorm2
Factor5 Project
WarDevil: Enigma
5th Phantom Saga
Angel Rings
Hot Shots Golf 5
Black Blade
Derby Stallion
Driver
Redwood Falls
Way of the Samurai 3
8 days
GoW3
GT5[/size]

[Toonique 0]

[quote name="ACE"][b]CrazzyMan[/b], на пс2 была мультиплатформа в лучшем качестве, поэтому ее люди и брали, нафик дримкаст, когда на пс2 все красивее выглядит? + свои эесклюзивы, дримка никому не нужен был, вот его и не покупали, и хочу тебя просветить, дримка провалилися еще и из-за того, что на нем не было некст гена от ЕА геймс, а на 360 он есть и на полтора года раньше и больше и КРАСИВИЕЕ :gigi: Потом, на пс3 щас 28 игр, на 360 - более 200 игр, на первой парочка эксклюзивов вроде реситсанса и моторшторма, плюс отсосные генжи2 и антолд легендс, а на 360 эксов и больше и лучшее :razz:
какую консольку купить, хм :? 360 :gigi:

то что мало/много - это пофик, никого не волновало, что зое2, ико и колос проходится за 5 часов :razz:

продажами у бокса все супер, на старте 5 месяцев был дефицит, у пс3 дефицит был 2 месяца, а они идут по продажам одинакова :razz: а софт продается на 360 НАМНОГО лучше :razz:

насчет последнего - назови мне хоть одну трунекст генную игру на пс3, которая лучше графики на 360? нету таких, более того - там вообще нет некст гена, кроме Обливиона и моторшторма с его грязью :gigi:
а про пк ты бы молчал, давно видать не играл на пк
посмотри список релизов пк игр и найди мне хоть что-то похожее на игры 360 или некст ген :lol: :dn:
[url=http://www.ag.ru/reviews]http://www.ag.ru/reviews[/url]
их всех игр супер хит только один - порт Джейд Эмпайр, которая на боксе1 вышла два года назад :-D
о, да, не покупай 360, играй на пк :lol:[/quote]
Отлично! +1

[ACE 42 758]

[b]CrazzyMan[/b], :-D
не позорься :-D
короче, ты noob, верь, что все твои хиты выйдут сегодня :gigi: :dn:

[Digital Noise 468]

мне линейка пс3 привлекает больше если честно)

[CrazzyMan 1]

[b]ACE[/b], маладиец, прекрасно аргументировал свой ответ. :-D
Слив защитан. :dn:

[aladdin 2]

[quote name="biblbrux"]Нативное 1080р на х360 во всех хд-двд фильмах есть[/quote]

ты лично проверял просмотр видео родного разрешения 1920х1080 на х360?
я проверял на пс3 - тормозов небыло...

ПС: в свойствах видео файла написано реальное разрешение

[img]http://foto.mail.ru/mail/aladdin77/PS3/i-897.jpg[/img]

[KillEmotions 115]

Да мне плевать на эксклюзивы - я хочу играть в мультиплатформу. Вот где мне в нее играть?
PS. Крэйзи, ты уже реально достал этим списком. Уже даже неанонсированные игры без названия туда запихиваешь. Уносите.

[biblbrux 587]

[quote name="aladdin"] [quote name="biblbrux"]Нативное 1080р на х360 во всех хд-двд фильмах есть[/quote]

ты лично проверял просмотр видео родного разрешения 1920х1080 на х360?
я проверял на пс3 - тормозов небыло...


[/quote]

эээ... У меня х360 подключен к 1080р жк монитору. Играю в 1080р... Смотрел в wmvHD 1080р видюшки. Все честно, ничего не апскейлится. Не понимаю, почему так сложно поверить официальной информации? Есть же куча прессрелизов и всякой такой инфы, в которой говорится, что х360 держит 1080р нативно, есть игры, которые 1держат 1080р нативно, без апскейла, есть обзоры этих игр, где все расписано...

[ACE 42 758]

[b]CrazzyMan[/b], ты посмотри на даты выхода своих игр, да, и не позорься :razz:
а второй пункт вообще лол, дистивтно, лучше только ресистанс и моторшторм поиграть

черт :-D
особенно прет ресистанс2 и моторшторм2 и всякие тба 2009 :sad: :-D

[CrazzyMan 1]

[quote name="KillEmotions"]Да мне плевать на эксклюзивы - я хочу играть в мультиплатформу. Вот где мне в нее играть?
PS. Крэйзи, ты уже реально достал этим списком. Уже даже неанонсированные игры без названия туда запихиваешь. Уносите.[/quote]
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не ясно где?

ты приставку на год покупаешь или на 5 лет?
около половины тех игр выйдут до конца марта 2008.

[KillEmotions 115]

[b]CrazzyMan[/b], я это писал к тому, что ты на все игры, которые есть на боксе и писи, иле боксе и пс3, пишешь "мультиплатформа" как диагноз. Я тебе говорю, что я играю в мультиплатформу, у меня уже есть одна приставка, и я не хочу играть на писи. И задаю вопрос - на чем мне тогда играть? Почему бокс плох для мультиплатформы?
Я плохо объясняю, или ты не хочешь меня понять?
[quote]около половины тех игр выйдут до конца марта 2008.[/quote]
а вот когда выйдут - тогда будем говорить. я не оганичен только боксом, и у меня нет такого отвращения к Сони, как у тебя к МС.

[Dr. Robotnic 2]

Итересно эти споры будут длится до времен второго пришествия?