Стивен Кинг

[Ulkesh 0]

на форуме в обсуждении сюжета игры SH2 как-то упомянули книгу Стивена Кинга, пытался найти это сообщение, но никак.

подскажите, что за книга.

Вроде бы что-то типа “Регулятор”

[Roman 3 478]

Если я не ошибаюсь то вроде "Регуляторы"

[Segal 2]

Если я не ошибаюсь то вроде "Регуляторы"

Будем искать :wink:

[Ulkesh 0]

а где можно скачать?

я тут посмотрел на книжных сайтах, такого нету :(

[ZombiE 0]

О книге Кинга "Регуляторы" написал я.

То что не можете найти это понятно почему. Я просто забыл упомянуть, что она написана под псевдонимом Ричард Бахман, извините.

RICHARD BACHMAN - THE REGULATORS (1996 года), рекомендую почитать.

[skin_ticket 0]

А каким боком соотносятся Регуляторы и Silent Hill??

Если уж говорить о Кинге, то Туман или Салемс Лот более похоже на правду.

[xtr 878]

Ты еще Kudjo скажи :)))

По мне самый близкий Thinner Man

Там идея схожая про вишневый пирог.

[ZombiE 0]

Да, Туман тоже похож. Просто я на форуме Тайна Silent Hill выдвинул теорию о том, что Алисса, выжив в пожаре, продолжала существовать лишь в своем придуманном мире - Туманном Сайлент Хилле, поэтому и провел параллель с Регуляторами Кинга, где Тек строит пустыню посреди Огайо. Я же не говорю о том, что это 100% соответствие.

Вот ты навел пример Тумана и Салема (а кто-то еще и Куджо вспомнил :lol: ) - все-таки видно разработчики игры таки начитались Кинга, перед созданием игрушки.

[Гость]

2xtr: Куджо я не скажу, поскольку привел наиболее похожие сюжеты. Не читал, не лезь.

2ZombiE: Да уж, похоже на то. У Кинга постоянно что-то случается с маленькими городками. Правда не настолько кровавое, как в SH. Туман - всего лишь монстры, Салем - всего лишь вампиры :D

[ZombiE 0]

Один мой друг сказал: "У Кинга все книти начинаются одинаково - в маленьком городке жила маленькая девочка\мальчик..." :lol:

Теперь посмотрим на Сайлент Хилл:

- часть первая - Шерил

- часть вторая - Лора

По-моему, связь очевидна. Закрадывается подозрение - не Кинг ли писал сценарии к этим играм? :wink:

[BlindGuard 1]

"У Кинга все книти начинаются одинаково - в маленьком городке жила маленькая девочка\мальчик..."

Во-первых так начинается половина всех страшилок:)

Закрадывается подозрение - не Кинг ли писал сценарии к этим играм?

Во-вторых не надо выдвигать необоснованные теории.

Авторы сюжета находились под влиянием большого количества книг, различных авторов. Это можно определить по названиям улиц в первом Silent Hill.

А чтобы тема не разросталась дальше, приведу исследования уважаемого President Evil, большого знатока SH:

"1. The Regulators, a novel by Richard Bachman (Stephen King's pseudonym)

A young child is possessed by a powerful and irreverent evil, which

materializes the child's toys into reality, and turns an entire

neighborhood upside down. Life-sized versions of the toys invade the

streets, and anyone standing outside is killed. Those who are left

cannot call for help or leave the neighborhood, because the evil

entity has sucked them all into a conjured world, from which there

is no escape but to play this thing through.

2. Rosemary's Baby, a novel by Ira Levin, a film by Roman Polanski

Rosemary and her actor husband, Guy, move into a swanky and expensive

apartment in Manhattan. Their elderly and intrusive neighbors, the

Castavetes, are actually the leaders of a Satanic Coven. Guy makes a

pact with Roman, the leader, to get a lead role in a very promising

Broadway play. In return, the Coven is allowed to summon Lucifer, who

impregnates a drugged Rosemary with the Antichrist. Rosemary tries to

get away, but the conspiracy reaches so deeply that she cannot. She

gives birth to the child, and eventually accepts that she is the mother

of the Son of Satan, and to make the best of it.

3. Phantoms, a novel by Dean Koontz

Two sisters are en route to a small town. When they arrive, the entire

place seems deserted. Then they stumble across the corpses of several

people, who all seemed to have died suddenly of some sort of virus.

Others seem to have been butchered so suddenly that they were stopped

in the middle of menial tasks. Arming themselves, the girls suddenly run

across a Sheriff and his two deputies. These men are from the next

town over, investigating what is going on in town after the local

Sheriff called them for backup. They hear screams coming from a local

inn, where seven guests were previously registered, but only one

body is found. After searching the entire premises, they find words

written in red lipstick on a bathroom mirror, "The Ancient Enemy by

Timothy Lyte". Suddenly, the body they found is missing. They return

to the sheriff's station, and attempt to radio back to their town.

But the transmission is cut off by terrible interference. They are

suddenly attacked by a large, mothlike creature, who kills one of

the deputies. This is where most of the simularities to Silent Hill

ends. The rest of the story is about an ancient creature, who has

fed every couple hundred years on a small town or village, causing

the whole population to mysteriously disappear. Roanoke Island in

Virginia, and an ancient Aztec city are two instances. This thing

wants Timothy Lyte, and expert on mass disappearances, to come to

the town and see it, to tell the world to submit to its appetite.

4. Something Wicked This Way Comes, a novel by Ray Bradbury

The novel relates the tale of an evil carnival that comes to a small

town, in the fall, out of season. Two young boys discover by accident

that the carnival people and their devious leader, Mr. Dark, are luring

several townsfolk into giving up their souls and becoming slaves to the

carnival. The carnival's main attraction is a carousel, much like the

one that appears in Silent Hill, except that those who ride on this one

are aged or made younger, depending on the direction the ride is

spinning. Several instances occur where Mr. Dark is able to convince

the boys that they are someplace that they are not, and that they are

being attacked by spiders that don't exist. These are the only

simularites that I notice between the two plots.

5. The Midwich Cuckoos, a story by John Wyndam

This classic science fiction/horror tale is the basis of the Village

of the Damned films, in which children have terrible powers to alter

reality and attack adults. The Midwich Elementary School in Silent Hill

proudly steals its name from Wyndam's book.

6. Sphere, a novel by Michael Crichton

Another Crichton work that may be an influence on Silent Hill is the

famous Jurassic Park, in which dinosaurs roam the planet once again.

I only mention this due to the pterodactyl-like flying demons in the

game, maybe they were influenced by the book. But even more of an

influence on the game, I feel, is the novel Sphere, which just recently

became a movie. This story plays with reality and the reader's head in

ways that remind me of Silent Hill. Also, one of the main concepts of

the book involves thought becoming reality, no matter how illogical

those thoughts may be. Monsters are generated simply because one person

unknowingly wills them into being. This is how I developed my theory

that Alessa is controlling reality in Silent Hill with her mind, and

that she is generating all the monsters in the game sheerly out of pure

thought. Notice how, when the monsters are killed, they fade away after

some time? I've seen it happen!!! Just back away from any enemy you

kill, until it is lost in fog or darkness. Count to three, and then run

back to it. You might catch a glimpse of the dead enemy fading away.

This fading of monsters happens in Sphere as well.

7. Hell House, a novel by Richard Matheson

Matheson Street in the game is named after the author of many horror,

sci-fi, and mystery novels. Matheson also wrote classic episodes of

Star Trek and The Twilight Zone. Needless to say, reality is not a

firm concept in any of his works, and irony in the situation of

characters is mainstay. This is especially true in Hell House, where

a team of paranormal detectives travels to a notorious house to

investigate. Upon first arriving, they discover a secret room which

seems to have been used for Satanic rituals, and the sacrifice of

living children, many of whom seemed to be burned to death. But things

are not what they seem. Luckily for Matheson readers, the author is

a bit more generous about explaining things at the end. I strongly

suggest that all Silent Hill lovers read this book, you should be able

to find it at the library, or a book collector's shop. You also might

enjoy his other work, I Am Legend, which was the basis of the film

Omega Man, starring Charlton Heston.

And there are plenty others, from the other authors reference to in the

game by name. Here are some works which I personally feel were influences

on the game, but are not referenced to directly in Silent Hill:

1. Jacob's Ladder, a film by Adrian Lynne

This is a truly disturbing film, and it's obvious to me, and most Silent

Hill players who view it, that it was a big, BIG influence on the game.

Tim Robbins plays a Vietnam veteran who was exposed to some kind of

nasty gas during a fire-fight in the jungles. Now he is a postal worker

in the states, but he has some severely disturbing flashbacks, and some

very hellish hallucinations involving demons. The big question is, what

part of his experience is reality? One sequence involves Robbins'

character, named Jacob, being forcibly wheeled into a hospital against

his will. As he is taken on a gurney further into the hospital, the

doctors and patients take on disturbing and twisted shapes. The walls

are covered with chainlink fencing and mesh, and everywhere there are

bloodstains and rust. The setting is quite visually similar to what is

encountered in Dark Silent Hill. We find out at the end of the film

that NONE of what has been seen was real. This helped me to form the

theory that neither Misty Silent Hill nor Dark Silent Hill are the

Real Silent Hill.

2. Twin Peaks, a television series created by David Lynch.

Twin Peaks involved alot of weird and unexplainable events connected

to the murder of a local high school girl named Laura Palmer. The

main plot of the show, during its first season, revolved around the

attempts of FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper and local sherrif Harry S.

Truman to figure out who murdered Laura Palmer. The only good clues in

the case were of a metaphysical nature, mostly derived from Agent

Cooper's strange dreams. Eventually, Cooper and Truman learned that the

murderer was Laura Palmer's own father, who acted under the influence

of a demonic entity known as "Killer Bob". This evil spirit possessed

Leland Palmer since he was a young boy, and only manifested

occasionally, like a second personality. Leland had no knowledge of Bob

or what the entity caused him to do. Killer Bob hailed from a place

called the Black Lodge, an alternate reality that Agent Cooper had

visited many times in his dreams. In tracking down a deranged FBI

agent named Windam Earl, Cooper was forced to enter the Black Lodge

and confront Bob, among other entities. After Cooper was found

unconscious in the woods, he began acting strangely. The very last

shot of the series showed Cooper slamming his head into a bathroom

mirror, causing himself to bleed. Laughing hysterically, he began

making fun of things he had said previously, while pretending to be

Agent Cooper. You see, Killer Bob had taken possession of Agent Cooper.

This much was not clearly explained, or spoon-fed to the viewers, and

many had trouble understanding what had occured. I myself had to watch

this episode several times before I understood. Seems like the makers

of Silent Hill devised their ending along the same lines. Notice also

how the intro is kinda like the opening of a television series? The

viewer is shown clips that they may have seen and clips that are yet to

come. (Even if you've played the game five times, you still haven't

seen all the clips in the intro.) The theme music is very experimental,

and the music that occurs in the game, (low, quiet, ominous, more noise

than music) is very similar to the music of Angelo Badalementi during

some of the more disturbing parts of Twin Peaks. Also, Twin Peaks was

chock full of irreverent humor, which may explain the inclusion of the

hilarious yet offbeat UFO Ending. I consider Twin Peaks, which I watched

enthusiastically from its premiere to its closure, to be all the warm-up

I needed to be able to tackle the plot of Silent Hill."

© President Evil

[Cheryl 0]

Я повторюсь, но я где-то читала, что разработчики игры взяли туман именно из рассказа Кинга( правда в SH туман менее кровожадный... :wink: ). Но причем тут Куджо.. Бешеных собак в SH2 не встречала, если только в первом... А интересно , в каком штате США находится город Тихий Холм, уж не в штате Мэн ли? Кстати, мне Сайлент Хилл еще одну книгу Кинга напомнил- "Безнадегу", что-то в этом есть...

[skin_ticket 0]

Cheryl Да, тоже хотел Безнадегу вспомнить - заброшенный городок, одно большое зло в виде Тэка. А также стервятники и койоты, прям из первого SH!

BlindGuard А чтобы тема не разросталась дальше

Что тебе в этом не нравиться? На то форумы и даны, чтобы темы разростались :wink:

[Cheryl 0]

Начала вот читать "Регуляторов", скачанных с какого- то русского сайта Стивена Кинга, и еще вспомнила, что в Silent Hill"e есть что-то от "Сияния"( Отель... :twisted: )...

[skin_ticket 0]

Cheryl Ну тогда можно еще впомнить Кладбище Домашных Животных (концовка Rebirth), Бегущий Человек (на всем протяжении игры), Томминокеры (концовка UFO), Побег Из Шоушенка (тюрьма), ну и как кто-то говорил - Куджо (Dog Ending)

[BlindGuard 1]

skin_ticket

Что тебе в этом не нравиться? На то форумы и даны, чтобы темы разростались

А я и не спорю.

Только одно дело, когда тема разрастается умными мыслями, другое когда от простого флейма. :wink:

[Segal 2]

Начала вот читать "Регуляторов", скачанных с какого- то русского сайта Стивена Кинга, и еще вспомнила, что в Silent Hill"e есть что-то от "Сияния"( Отель... :twisted: )...

А ссылочку можно? А то я так и не нашел в магазинах эту книгу, а почитать хочется.

[Cheryl 0]

Пожалуйста, я не жадная... : www.stking.narod.ru, практически все произведения Кинга на двух языках. А вообще, рассказы и книги можно скачать практически на всех сайтах Кинга.

[skin_ticket 0]

BlindGuard А у нас умный флейм :roll:

[Segal 2]

Пожалуйста, я не жадная... : www.stking.narod.ru, практически все произведения Кинга на двух языках. А вообще, рассказы и книги можно скачать практически на всех сайтах Кинга.

Спасибо огромное, сейчас вот качаю.

[ZombiE 0]

Хорошо было бы, если разработчики дали добро на написание книги Сайлент Хилл. Но Конами превратила Сайлент в дойную корову - так же как и Кепком Резидент, еще не успели третий Хилл издать, а над четвертым уже ведутся работы. Думаю, пока они не выжмут из игровой серии все, то не будет ни фильма, ни книги, ни даже комикса о котором так много говорилось на зарубежных форумах :sad: .

Kапталисты...:evil:

[Segal 2]

Читаю сейчас Регуляторов. Интересно так, хотя пока что не улавливаю связи с Silent Hill 2. Хотя нет - ужас маленького провинциального городка есть и это похоже.

[Segal 2]

Да, Туман тоже похож.

По-моему, не очень, разве что самим туманом. В книге речь шла о гигантских монстрах, появившихся после экспериментов военных, которые захватили ВСЮ Америку. А в Сайлент Хилле кошмар строго локализован.

[ZombiE 0]

Да, Туман тоже похож.

По-моему, не очень, разве что самим туманом. В книге речь шла о гигантских монстрах, появившихся после экспериментов военных, которые захватили ВСЮ Америку. А в Сайлент Хилле кошмар строго локализован.

Кто его знает - лакализирован ли?... :twisted:

[BlindGuard 1]

Читаю сейчас Регуляторов. Интересно так, хотя пока что не улавливаю связи с Silent Hill 2.

А ее и нет. "Регуляторы" легли в основу сюжета первой части SH. А первый со вторым SH, кроме города ни как не связан.